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FOX Business
Nov 29, 2012 3:00pm EST
gyrated the market. john boehner said no substantial progress on fiscal cliff debt deal while harry reid insists we democrats are on track and will finalize it this year. even chuck schumer weighed in saying progress is being made on the hill and the next is a taste oversensitive. take a look at the intraday, you can see how it was jerked around today. right around 11:30 a.m., speaker john maye -- john boehner spoke. the buyers poured in, the short time later chuck schumer came in. now we are trading near the highs of the day. the dow jones dust they stop 77 points, 45 to the upside. all 10 s. and p. sectors are jumping with technologies leading the way. research in motion a big winner. can you believe the stock is near $12 per share. rim was at $6 per share, but positive comments out of goldman sachs fueling the game. apple in the green continuing the postelection resurgence. apple was in bear market correction level just a few weeks ago, but right now jumping about 1%. disappointing november sales numbers. costs dropping 6%, tiffany got a markdown, earnings missed street estimates
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 5:30am EST
to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterback? >> there's some confusion
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
had red lines, saying he will not entertain the debt ceiling debate in the broader fiscal cliff discussion, clear where he was on taxes on the wealthy, a president who came out, and from the beginning, suggesting he's not moving off of his basic requirements, and republicans came a coup of different times making, at least, gestures towards a compromise. i think that suggests where the leverage really lies in this debate and negotiations. >> chris, seemssthe president's doing everything but taking snuff as he makes degrees and pronouncements, and the republicans for the life of me don't have a response, a message to meet and deal with the president. >> well, this is the starving time for the republicans. this is the bad season -- unhappy christmas for the republicans with the goal to get to the fiscal cliff, and get beyond that so that they can get to the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling is where they have leverage, advantage, and where the president is asking to increase the debt ceiling beyond the 2 #.2 trillion, these are american dollars, the $2.2 trillion that he was granted i
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 10:00pm EST
show down with congressver raising the debt ceiling. lou: the fiscal cliff and now a new ultimatum on the national debt ceiling. you suppose this is the last condition? >> it's going to be a wild couple of months, maybe everybody thought with the election over, there was going to be peace and fure all of this out, bui think we're just at the beginning of a long protractive battle, lou. lou: more on the stalemate of the fiscal cliff, the impasse, and tell us what you think about the so-called negotiations. vote in tonight's online poll. do you agree president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are actually the cause? make him responsible for driving us off the fiscal cliff? go to our to be page at facebook facebook.com/loudobbs. we'll have results at the end. chris and steven joining us here next to address th question and more. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people switched to me last year, saving an average of $475. yeah, i'm kind of a big deal. [sigh] it feels good to help people save... with great discounts like safe
Current
Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm PST
fiscal cliff discussions by folding the debt ceiling into fiscal cliff talks. take a listen. >> obama: congress, in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> jennifer: fortunately for us "newsweek" "daily beast" special correspondent michael tomasky is always up for playing political games himself. he's joining us from washington d.c. thanks for coming back inside "the war room." >> it is always my pleasure, governor. >> jennifer: always a pleasure to have you. so let me talk about this debt ceiling issue. because really, as we look at it really, the only leverage that republicans have on the fiscal cliff talks they proceed to be with the debt limit right? so today the treasury department ups the ante by endorsing republican senator mitch mcconnell's summer 2011 provision which, you know, he suggested and it effectively lets the president raise the debt limit himself. only has congress intervene if they don't like it. mcconnell, of course is now agai
KOFY
Dec 4, 2012 12:00am PST
>> president obama urged twitter llowers on monday to support his position on fiscal cliff debate. president wants debt reduction that includes higher taxes on the wealthy. congressional replicans came one a counter proposal. their plan would reduce the naonal debt by 2.2 trillion including 800 biion in new tax revenue but no tax increase for the top 2% of earners. if congress and president can not reach an agreement income taxes will automatically go up for nearly all americans. >> 7 news teaming up with a job journal for another higher event. cawt have more than 350 jobs available at the free event in san jose. >> among the company hiring, hyatt regency santa clara. california army nional guard. new york life insurance an financial services as well as sleep traino what to do bring the sume to the double tree hotel in san jose from noon until 4 tomorrow. good opportunity to perhaps find the job you are looking for. >> magician from chico is recovering from severe burns to his head and face it happened while wayne was performing on television in the dominican public and thehow host douses himith cologne that is
ABC
Dec 3, 2012 11:00pm PST
. >> president obama urged twitter followers on monday to support his position on fiscal cliff debate. president wants debt reduction that includes higher taxes on the wealthy. congressional republicans came one a counter proposal. their plan would reduce the national debt by 2.2 trillion including 800 billion in new tax revenue but no tax increase for the top 2% of earners. if congress and president can not reach an agreement income taxes will automatically go up for nearly all americans. >> 7 news teaming up with a job journal for another higher event. cawters have more than 350 jobs available at the free event in san jose. >> among the company hiring, hyatt regency santa clara. california army national guard. new york life insurance and financial services as well as sleep train.so what to do bring the resume to the double tree hotel in san jose from noon until 4 tomorrow. good opportunity to perhaps find the job you are looking for. >> magician from chico is recovering from severe burns to his head and face it happened while wayne was performing on television in the dominican republic and the show host douses him
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
debt ceiling issue out of discussions about the fiscal cliff. take a listen. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. >> congressman, the last time republicans used the debt ceiling for political purposes, the full faith and credit of this nation was downgraded. are they really happy, really happy, in the face of what you've just heard the president say, are they happy to do if again? >> yeah, they have acted irresponsibly. many house republicans have acted like children. they have behaved like children. when children behave containing yously, you take the dangerous toy as way from them. they want to continue on a three-month basis. they have tried to schett down the federal government on a three-month timetable because they don't fundamentally believe the government should help grow the middle class or help small businesses retire people, retain employees, or helping veterans. so we don't think it's a good idea for them to continue this three-month attempt to shut down the government. we
ABC
Dec 4, 2012 1:05am PST
cliff debate. president wants debt reduction that includes higher taxes on the wealthy. congressional republicans came one a counter proposal. their plan would reduce the national de 2.2 trillion including 800 billion in new tax revenue but no tax increase for the top 2% of earners. if congress and president can not reach an agreement income taxes will automatically go up for nearly all americans. >> 7 news teaming up with a job journal for another higher event. cawtersre than 350 jobs available at the free event in san jose. >> among the company hiring, hyatt regency santa clara. california army national guard. new york life insurance and financial services as well as sleep train.so what to do bring the resume to the double tree hotel in san jose from noon until 4 tomorrow. good opportunity to perhaps find the job you are looking for. >> magician from chico is recovering from severe burns to his head and face it happened while wayne was performing on television in the dominican republic and the show host douses him with cologne that is flammable. the head burst in flames. suffered fi
FOX News
Dec 6, 2012 6:00pm EST
cliff. >> i think they want to separate it out. >> let me add in here, judge, to your point that no congress has ever used the fiscal cliff. usual through debt ceiling as a bargaining point, which is what happened last year. this something we never dealt with. >> what would happen if the congress said no? the president would be forced to operate the federal government in money available to him. >> nobody said that to ronald reagan or the first george busher second george bush. >> democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. >> but nobody has ever, ever stopped it and made it a point of then fiscal negotiation. only happened once. >> we have never been in treacherous, perilous fiscal circumstances as today. >> bret: top senate republican calling it quits was here on the set with us. the all-stars weigh in on that. surprising development next. initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 5:00am EST
can kicks back campaign to avoid the fiscal cliff and cut the national debt. the 81-year-old simpson went "gangnam style" to make his point. ♪ >> i have a bum knee. horse, horse. ride the horse. >> senator, thank you for that. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to bill karins. he has your weather channel forecast. >> the best part is the underwater robot for a place that doesn't have water. >> maybe it's a pool. >> yes. >> and they need to inspect it. >> counter-terrorism measures in the backyard. you never know. good morning, everyone. getting out the door this morning, it's very cold up in new england. tell you what, the lack of snow is really becoming a slightly alarming especially if you have any interest in snowy weather recreation or skiing or ice skating or maybe you like to go snowmobiling. the northern half of the country is sparse. 7% of the country has snow cover. most of that is the high elevations in the rockies and northern rockies. it's about as low as it gets. last year at this time we had 20
Current
Dec 7, 2012 2:00am PST
have a balanced approach to deficit reduction to avoiding the fiscal cliff with revenue and spending cuts departments are willing to embrace so we can make sure we avoid this fiscal cliff and particularly raise the debt ceiling and avoid economic disaster. >> if that's the only particular issue to confront us next year if it is not wrapped up in this one negotiation as it should be. later in the show, we'll talk to chris van hollen, your colleague about a motion to dismiss possibility that would circumvent john boehner's extrasty to keep this bill off the floor. we will see about that. look, will rogers famously said i'm not a member of on organized party, i'm a democratic. you seem to tame the beat. under your leadership, the party has been unified. you had remarkable gains in the senate. how did you do it? >> this is a team effort. in fact, you took the words right out of my mouth from the d.n.c. meetings. i quoted will rogers in celebrating our victory because i think that will rogers would be surprised and proud that the party that he knew not to be organized was very well organized, had a ground game that was well coordinated that, you know, the tens of thousands of doors we knocked on, really hundreds
CSPAN
Dec 6, 2012 5:00pm EST
earlier this week to give his thoughts on what's called the fiscal cliff and negotiations that are currently underway. he spoke at an event hosted by campaign to fix the debt, a group cofounded by alan simpson and erskine bowles, the former coaches of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. he spoke for about 15 minutes. >> welcome back, everybody. >> thank you. it was a traffic panel on health care. now we are really going to have a special guest. chairman baucus who is the chairman of the senate finance committee, and we will talk both about the budget negotiations that are going on now and the fiscal cliff, but what's really important is that both senator baucus and his counterpart in the house, chairman camp work together i believe on developing ideas for tax reform will be some of the lead folks who are shepherding whatever kind of framework, hopefully comes out of the fiscal cliff to their committees to help develop the details of how to do entitlement reform and tax reform. so we are very like you have with us today chairmen bockius who is somebody who's been thinking about these ideas for quite some time, hazard immense amount of
CSPAN
Nov 30, 2012 7:00pm EST
specifically affect families? guest: some that have expired that are part of the fiscal cliff package. they get much less attention than the bush tax cuts. they are part of the packet of decisions that congress has to make. host: we can go into debt but to highlight four --th let's start with the child tax credit. what is it? guest: this is a credit that applies to families, some that you can use if you make up to ,000.0 it is they $1,000 credit for each child. unless congress acts, that 10000 becomedit will $500, but becomes less valuable. you can make up to $130,000. host: that is the child tax credits. guest: almost 24 million families claimed it in 2009. it is one of the bigger tax credits out there. host: the next one would be the child and dependent care tax credit. guest: is a credit between 20% and a 30% and goes up to $3,000. it helps families with their expenses for child care or if they have dependents and things like that. you can basically claim a credit of $3,000. host: for child care purposes? guest: this helps with dependents. host: the earned income tax credit is what? guest: it is a credit whose primary recipients are working parents with children. this is something that is designed to help the low-income families h
CNN
Nov 28, 2012 5:00pm PST
from kentucky. let's get to this fiscal cliff. $4 trillion in debt reduction. are there specific ways of reaching that figure that both of you might agree on? >> well, you know i think one comprom ice is that we need to cut some military spending. conservatives like myself who think that national spending, i think that compromise could get to spending cut. >> here is the question, both sides are going to have to compromise beyond defense spending. do you see you supporting? >> mostly has to be on the spending side. we used to spend 20% of gdp. federal spending has gone up. and when people say we have to raise taxes on rich people, one there is not enough money and you get less revenue. and when you lower rates you get more revenue. what do you make of tom cole's proposal that republican lawmakers should extend tax rates for those making less before the end of this year and deal with the tax rates for the wealthiest americans at a later date? >> once you separate them out there is not a lot of sympathy for therism people. but the public often doesn't realize that the public pays a
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 11:00am PST
everybody under 250. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, i will not play that game. >> he's the last person who should have limitless borrowing power. look, the only way we ever cut spending around here is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. >> joining me now is nbc's senior political editor, mark murray. we've heard a lot about this idea of decoupling the tax cuts where the house would pass two girls, one for the middle class and one for top earners leaving it up to the senate to reject the tax cut for the rich. is that idea really on the table at this point? >> craig, that decoupling is what the white house and democrats do want. there does seem to be an indication and all the signs point to at the end of the day republicans in some form or fashion might end up budging on floo that front. you played a bunch of clips of republicans and democrats engaging in a lot of posturing and pr. a lot influences the public in this debate as well as the news media, but it's to influence their own members. as everyone braces for a d
FOX News
Dec 7, 2012 3:00pm PST
looking for political will out of washington. they are looking for certainty on the fiscal cliff. certainty that debt reduction, there will be debt reduction, that entitlements will be brought under control. looking for certainty on taxe taxes. until this happens, there isn't going to be that certainly. i have to say that the republicans showed the political will. they stood up, to the conservative base. they put the re-knews on the table. what troubles me -- now that the ball is in the white house court, right? what troubles me is lack of political will on the white house, we haven't seen yet. particularly on spending and entitlement reform. voices in the deckic party saying that this was a mandate to walk away from debt reduction. that is troubling. >> charles lane do you see anything out there to give the business confidence to hire people again? >> well, there is just, i agree with nina. too many unknowns. we could add the situation the slow, steady, stagnation of europe to the mix. we could add uncertainty about where china is going to go. the troubling thing about the departure from the labor force of so
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
fiscal cliff, and see what happens, fix the debt problem and maybe things will be better, maybe 10 or 15 years down the road, but maybe that is the responsible thing to do. >>guest: i was with you until you said the responsible thing to do. when the congress created this sequestration nightmare it wasn't the responsible thing to do. they did it so we would do the responsible thing and that the sequestration, the fiscal cliff the responsible thin wouldn't happen but if we don't get from the american people, if they don't call their congress person, whether they are republican or democrat and tell us to move off the dime and get the job done, we call --. >>eric: what happens in what happens? i tell you what happens. all you guys on washington pat each other on the back and say we didn't go off the fiscal cliff and the debt goes from $16 trillion to $20 trillion a couple years down the road to $25 trillion. nothing changes in washington, dc. you tax. you still spend. maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and go over the fiscal cliff and fix the problem. >>guest: there is no f
FOX Business
Dec 2, 2012 8:00am EST
fiscal cliff, but then another fiscal cliff comes, that's the whole point of this. >> in fact, and there was a proposal this week to try it get rid of the fiscal cliffs and no longer give congress full power to extend the debt. but i think, i'll tell you what, i'm kind of curious to see the other guys, i think we're going over the fiscal cliff because i think that congress would much rather have us go over the fiscal cliff and then vote to lower taxes and increase spending and they can't bare to raise taxes and reduce spending and that's where we'll end up in three months and have a vote to lower taxes and increase spending. >> jonas what does it do in the short-term, i know you're talking long-term. but short. >> they'recaring everybody about this, like we've got to keep pushing on or the world is going to end and it's not as bad a the politicians are pretending it is even. look, it's not a gd thing, but psyched into a level and it will be worse than the rea ffect of having the tax increase on the government level and that's the danger, using it as a tool to get their policies on boats sides of doing this, and they're going to cause -- the first recession is caused by psyching themselves into it and making peop
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
agreement to avoid the debt, the fiscal cliff, and then having a down payment on actually getting the $4 trillion identified. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down
KRON
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm PST
pin a negotiating tactic on republicans, saying congress can't tie fiscal cliff negotiations to upcoming debt ceiling votes. >> i will not play that game. we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> it's a sign the two sides have a lot to discuss---once they decide to do so. emily schmidt, kron4 news >> depending on you who you speak with. this wild prank. the hospital got a call from deejays she was pretending to be the queen and he was pretending that he was prince charles. incredibly, the hospital thought that it was correct and they released information. >> the call was put through to the ward and i am not impressed i think it was a pretty poor trick to play. there is no chance that this could have been put to the patient. >>catherine: that's the hospital boss - trying to save face. but a lot of people think it was pretty funny - especially when a nurse began instructing the 'queen' on when she should show up during visiting hours. the radio station is apologizing. >> coming up you could be surprised what is coming through the waterways on its way to san francisco bay. [ crickets chirping
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 1:00pm PST
days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a lump of coal delivered by the republican reindeer to the vast majority of americans. as for new revenues, they have reached in santa's sack for that old favorite. they plan to raise $800 billion by closing loopholes and deductions. only one problem a problem that flummoxes no less than mitt romney and paul ryan throughout the campaign, a problem as real today as it will be tomorrow -- the math. as the president explained in his first post-election interview on bloomberg this afternoon. >> it's a
CNBC
Nov 30, 2012 9:00am EST
here in the united states and what's happening with the fiscal cliff. it's worth noting today as we wait of course on monday for the pricing of the greek debt buyback from loans for the rest of the european union that the german lower house of parliament, german lawmakers today pass the greek bail out. it was always going to go through. you knew it would go through because the opposition will vote in favor of it but the chancellor angela merkel didn't get a majority within her coalition, 23 lawmakers there opposing. it's interesting also that the german finance minister, you know, if greece defaults that ultimately will collapse the euro. it was under that threat they were voting today. incidentally just on the pricing of that debt buyback from monday the indication seems to be it will go through relatively successfully targeting 6.8 billion euros it would appear at face value. partly it will go through because of so many state controlled lenders connected to the buy back particularly the greek banks sitting on a huge amount. we'll talk about that at the beginning of next week. in the meantime as i mentioned, as carl mentioned the stock markets con
NBC
Dec 6, 2012 6:00am EST
to hear from the researcher for moody's who warns a pressing concern may not be the fiscal cliff but what to do about the debt ceiling. >> squabble is not a solution. >> that was the fight from last year. over letting the government borrow more money by raising the debt limit. president obama is warning against another battle like last year. >> that is unacceptable. >> explaining republicans should not think they will get leverage on the debt ceiling discussion later by giving in to some democratic fiscal cliff demands now. >> that is a bad strategy for america and for businesses and it is not a game i will play. >> house leader say if the president does not agree with their plan, he should come back to the table. >> sit down with us and be serious about spending. >> if they continue to play politics, that will give you an answer about where we're going. >> they are planning for the worst, asking agencies to be ready for big cuts. >> this is acting responsibly because of the potential for this to happen. >> house members start a long weekend today. speaker boehner said he will be around to talk to the president. gop
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 10:00am PST
focus on this debt ceiling. the reason we find ourselves about to go off the fiscal cliff with the automatic spending cuts, in part is because back in 2011, they wanted to raise the debt ceiling and the republicans said you cannot do it unless we do spending cuts. we cannot just do deficit spending. so they agree, they cut this deal, now the democrats are going to the republicans and saying, forget that. let's just in the position to get rid of it. what on earth would make them think that republicans would agree to that? >> because the president thinks he has a mandate from the whole country. he thinks he can get anything he wants. i am sure that alan colmes loves this idea. here are the problems. the congress has the authority to authorize the debt. they also have the authority to authorize the bill that pays the debt. so now the president wants to take that away. this guy has shown a tendency to say that i don't need congress. i can pass laws with a stroke of a pen on executive orders. he doesn't need the supreme court because he declares laws unconstitutional, like doma. he says he wants an unlimited credit card, and you all will have to pay the bill. we have a debt ceilin
CNN
Dec 4, 2012 11:00am PST
conversation on the so-called fiscal cliff. the debt reducing tax hikes and federal spending cuts coming january 1st unless congress and the president act. so now both sides have offers on the table, the democrats' plan which would focus debt reduction on higher tax rates for the wealthiest 2%. house republicans, they anted up yesterday with a plan to cut the debt through tax code and spending reforms, not through higher tax rates for the wealthy. if there is no agreement, you know the deal, everyone, everyone's taxes go up. representative tom price of georgia joins me now from capitol hill. he is a hard line republican. congressman, good to see you. thanks for coming on. >> yes, thank you so much. good to be with you. >> the republican plan published yesterday, it is note worthry, congressman price, it would raise more money through the tax system this and is a pretty big departure for your republican party. i just want to know, do you support this proposal put forward by the speaker of the house? >> well, this proposal is just part of the overall package. remember, this doesn't touch o
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 6:00am PST
, the national debt would average about 5% of gdp over the next ten years. with the fiscal cliff, just over 1%. so with both sides at an impasse, is it better to go off the fiscal cliff or let congress kick the can down the road and face the same kind of economic hand wringing a year or two from now? the president of the conservative group freedom works joins me now. i know you're in a big conference. there is an interesting coalition, if you will, of very conservative deficit hawks and very liberal deficit hawks, if you will, who might come together and say, you know what, let the country go off the cliff. lack at those five-year projections. isn't this about short term versus long term? what do you say and what do you think your members would say? >> the best thing is to do something our spending problem and barring anything else, doing the automatic cuts that congress promised last year when they raised the debt ceiling would be better than doing nothing. it's separate from the ougautomc tax increase that happens on january 1. our preferred strategy here would be to accept the
CSPAN
Dec 6, 2012 5:00pm EST
fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are animating how severe that will be -- are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear how the reserve would response to this. we need to scale back from the cliff. at the very minimum, the cliff needs to be scaled back so it is only a hit to gdp at 1.5% -- 1.5 percentage points at most. if you have more of a drive than that, it it becomes it. the economy will weaken. the budget deduction will deteriorate. we are seeing a fiscal drag in europe. i would argue that we should smooth into th
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 12:00am EST
idea is while the president can permit the economy to fall over the fiscal cliff, or curb, whatever you want to call it, he can't allow us to default on our debt. that would, like, destroy the economy. that gives republicans a stronger hand or so they think. but really, think about that. here's how it would go. later this month, republicans would, by voting present, which everyone would think was a bit weird, permit the bush tax cuts to expire for income over $250,000. that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets wou
CSPAN
Dec 6, 2012 8:00pm EST
culture of all money -- of albany. tonight on c-span, a senate debate on the fiscal cliff. shaun donovan discusses it. harry reid and mitch mcconnell when back-and-forth on fiscal cliff issues and a proposal to raise the debt ceiling. here is part of their exchange. >> yesterday afternoon, i came to the floor and offered president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own party will even vote for. he is not interested in a balanced agreement, not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. with the president is really in, as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can, first by raising taxes on small businesses who he believes are making too much money, and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit, but so he can spend to his heart's content. for months, the president has been saying that all he wanted to raise taxes on the top 2% so he can tackle the debt and the d
NBC
Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff, or to raise the debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion, now there's new concern about what could happen to our credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperor. he does not have the power. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a standstill since monday. not by raising rates on the rich as the president had insisted. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> w
NBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm EST
vance. tonight, president obama issued yet another warning to republicans, do not use the fiscal cliff to start a fight over the debt ceiling. the u.s. could reach its debt ceiling by the end of the month, and risk defaulting on its loans early next year. house speaker john boehner today said, quote, we don't have time for the president to continue shifting the goal posts. we need to solve this problem. danielle lee now joins us from capitol hill with more on this story tonight. danielle? >> reporter: jim, good evening. we're just now learning that president obama spoke to house speaker john boehner by phone this afternoon. but we're not hearing of any progress on avoiding the fiscal cliff or on raising the nation's debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion. there are new concerns about what could happen to the country's credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limit. president obama talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter
Comedy Central
Nov 28, 2012 7:00pm PST
. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> that dreaded fiscal cliff. >> stephen: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. an unavoidable money will technology the razor-sharp financial rocks below. it all started back in 2011 during the showdown over raising our debt ceiling when republicans wanted spending cuts and obama wanted to raise taxes. which led to a budget crisis that congress solved by not solving it. (laughter) instead, they handed it over to something called "the supercongress" which couldn't fail because it was super. (laughter) unfortunately it was also congress so it failed. (laughter) and as a result -- (applause) as a result -- (applause) as a result, folks, we are facing another thing called sequestration which at first sounds like rationing the amount you can watch "sea quest." (laughter) but it's even worse than that. (laughter) sequestration is automatic spending cuts that both sides agree would trigger a new recession. it's like congress put a gun to the economy's head and swore it will pull the triger if congress doesn't put its own gun down. (laughter) it's kind of like a mexican standoff without any mexicans. (laughter) of course, obama's answer to this budget crisis is to raise taxes on the wealthy just because he ran on that pr
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm PST
fiscal cliff, president obama says he will not play the debt ceiling game again. but he is taking a few more shots in the public relations game. turning the screws on republicans, a little bit more. chief white house correspondent ed henry starts us off tonight. >> reporter: finally the blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president ratcheted up the lesh on john boehner. >> no one wants to have this done more than me. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any
CNBC
Nov 30, 2012 3:00pm EST
the ceos in the room with president obama this week in the fiscal cliff meetings. many of the executives saying that the white house sounded resounding resoundingly reasonable when describing plans to address the debt and deficit. >> so was this proposal the white house made yesterday with more spending and very few spending cuts, was that what mr. sorenson was expecting out of the gate? he joins us on the telephone with his thoughts. good to have you with us. >> glad to be with you. >> when you were with the other ceos at the white house, does it jive with what we're hearing about that made mitch mcconnell laugh yesterday? are those two plans one in the same? >> well, i'm hopeful that what's happening in the media is posturing by both parties and doesn't reflect where either party thinks a deal will end up. i think what the president talked with us about on wednesday afternoon was much more a sense of where things ought to end up, and that was, i think, somewhat different than it sounds like what was proposed. >> so you didn't hear about the tax increase for the wealthiest, the spending increases that made mitch mcconnell laugh. those specifics you didn't get into with the president on wednesday, is t
FOX News
Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm EST
. now president obama is insisting that any deal on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joining me now, simon rosenberg. and mark theisen. guys, welcome. simon, let me start with you on this. we did have some democrats come on the show and say no, the president doesn't get to just decide when to raise the debt limit by himself. you need conscious at approval for that an
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 9:00am PST
. solving the fiscal cliff in a manner that addresses the true drivers of our debt and saves american jobs will be a great way for the president to start his second term. and for the good of the country, and my colleagues, we're ready to work with the president to achieve those goals. >> [ inaudible ]. >> that was speaker john boehner on capitol hill offering his rebuttal to the president's speech? pennsylvania. michael crowley, i'm sensing that there is a -- the drawing of a line in the sand about the president's squandering some amount of goodwill that the republicans are now trying to sort of further as a mean out there almost as their answer to his presumption of reasonableness or the great reasonableness tour of 2012. >> yeah. you know, boehner saying this is not a game but that's part of saying it's not a game is part of the game. i'm not sure that there's was any genuine goodwill republicans felt to the president as a result of his election. i don't think they had a genuine sense they owed himming that and that's how politics works. fight tooth and nail to your greatest advanta
PBS
Nov 29, 2012 6:30pm PST
. >> reporter: now, the other scenario: >> in an environment where we go off the fiscal cliff and we see continued problems on the debt side for the u.s., i think the gold price outperforms the white metals. >> reporter: gold's price will also depend on whether central banks continue to diversify their holdings into gold, and whether they implement more quantitative easing to boost growth. the outlook for platinum is a little more complicated. there have been major supply disruptions due to labor unrest in south africa, which produces nearly all of the world's platinum. it also depends on demand. >> europe is a key part of the platinum demand picture. if europe can recover, certainly that's going to bode well for platinum demand. if the price trades higher, it may affect some of the price- sensitive sectors like jewelry, like chinese jewelry demand. >> reporter: of course, many investors only buy metals for investment reasons. currently, there's over $150 billion invested in gold exchange-traded funds, an all- time high. erika miller, nbr, new york. >> tom: the broad market drifted higher with one eye on economic data and
PBS
Dec 6, 2012 12:00am PST
the fiscal cliff budget negotiations to future increases in the nation's debt ceiling. "the new york times" reported republicans might accept higher tax rates on wealthier americans to avoid triggering tax hikes for everyone. in return, they'd demand greater spending cuts next year before raising the federal borrowing limit. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game because we've got to... we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the 2011 standoff between the president and republicans led the nation to the brink of national default. standard and poor's even lowered its rating on u.s. government bonds. now, the president has proposed he be given authority to raise the debt ceiling without congressional action. house republicans reject that idea. and they've called for raising revenue without rate hikes, plus major savings in enti
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